i'll provide some analysis tomorrow but, I found the tvu tuner to be nearly as effective as center ice online, and much more reliable. I figure that part of the reason for the center ice online was to curb some of the sopcast/tvu channels that were popping up. i found the quality to be better on the center ice site, but, then again, it won't be free forever. but, i did find a way to watch the blacked out games. i'll let you know that little trick soon.